Forbidden/Limited List Update
The Forbidden/Limited List will be updated on October 22 with multiple new cards:
- Vision HERO Vyon and Amazoness Onslaught will be added to the Limited List (Onslaught was previously Semi-Limited).
- Amazoness Princess, Wiz, Sage Fur Hire, Hey, Trunade!, and Treacherous Trap Hole will all be added to the Semi-Limited list.
I don’t understand why they hit Vyon instead of Mask Change or Masked HERO Anki but that’s still a decent hit. Onslaught to 1 and Princess to 2 is a little bit too much in my opinion. I would’ve put Onslaught to 3 and Princess to 1 or 2, doing the same with Baby Tiger. Onslaught is not the unfair card, we had it long before Princess and it didn’t do anything. But overall a good hit. Wiz to 2 hopefully kills the deck forever. Should’ve put Beat instead but that’s also fine. Trunade at 2 is probably the least understandable hit but it’s also ok because the game becomes faster every new box. TTH at 2. Unfortunately not banned but at least they’re finally hitting box holos. TTH was a problem since its release and it got worse to the point that people were playing 3 of it, just to have 1 copy as early as possible. Overall it’s a pretty good list. Still missing Spellbooks though.
Vyon to 1 feels preemptive, since Amazoness was one of the biggest HERO counters and Amazoness got hit hard. Princess to 2 really hurts the deck since replacements for Onslaught (like Amazoness Heirloom), while already being much worse, still need Princess to get searched. I think Amazoness is dead after this. Fur Hires might be able to survive as a Wiz-only type of deck with Sea Stealth Attack or just heavy backrow, but they kinda feel dead too; you’re excluded from so much when playing that deck now. Trunade and TTH semi-limited is a huge step for Duel Links, with Konami finally showing that they’ll hit box SR/UR cards. I think this hurts Trunade (and helps backrow decks like Gladiator Beasts) much more than TTH. TTH is still so good that it’ll be played at 2x in a lot of decks (like Blue-Eyes), just without ECon now.
I’m excited that Konami finally released a good hit to Amazoness and Furs, however I don’t like them hitting both Treacherous and Trunade. Box SRs are no longer safe and with no return investment in Duel Links, that’s a troubling thing.
The list is great. I just hope the new mini box can come with some heat. What other decks do they expect us to play?
A very needed change if we don’t want this game to powercreep too much. I don’t think Trunade or TTH were ever healthy additions. Amazoness, Furs, and Heroes have been in the spotlight too long, and the meta was feeling stale so overall it was needed.
I think maybe it was the best banlist we’ve had so far. Hey Trunade, TTH, and ECon semi-limited is great for the game. They are cards that are completely unbalanced for Duel Links and now you will have to choose between them. And while the nerfs to Fur Hires and Amazoness may have been very hard, I’m still not sure if those decks completely died because they can adapt and become stall decks. Vyon to 1 was probably a precaution by Konami since Fur Hires and Amazoness were the main counters to Heroes, and they were both hit by this list.
The changes are good, they hit every deck that has been pretty dominant in the last few metas. Hopefully it is in preparation of adding Synchro-centric decks but not hitting Spellbooks will still make Synchroing hard.
In addition to the new entries on the Forbidden/Limited List, Konami has also announced change to the Cyber Style and Life Cost 0 skills. The Proto Cyber Dragon monsters from Cyber Style will no longer be usable for anything other than Fusion summons, while Life Cost 0 is now a one-time use skill, instead of covering any number of costs.
Perfect hits. Cyber Style might be a bit too much. They could’ve done a “no special summon” restriction for that turn but it would’ve still been pretty good with that. Now it’s pretty much dead. And yeah, f*ck Cyber-Stein.
Love that Cyber-Stein is gone. Interesting how hard they hit Cyber Style though. They may have seen it as similar to the old Three-Star Demotion and felt that it would limit their future card releases.
I expected a Cyber Style nerf, and Life Cost 0 was cancer.
Expected. Long have we awaited. Brick Athletes activated!
Cyber Style change was obvious and expected. Life Cost 0 finally getting the treatment it deserves, although I would have preferred them to outright ban Cyber-Stein so we can get 6000 Life Points.
Life Cost 0 and Cyber Style were 2 skills that really needed to change. Cyber Style was completely unbalanced and easy to activate, and Life Cost 0 is usually only used on stupid Cyber-Stein decks. In my opinion they could keep the skill the way it is today and just ban Cyber-Stein.
Two other really strong skills that did not appear in the banlist are Endless Trap Hell and Sealed Tombs. I would not have been surprised to see either of them on this list as well.
Cyber Style was abused by a lot of decks making it quite unfair. Life Cost 0 was always a meme.
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